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		<title>Gavin Ellis: Latter-day anarchists throw digital bombs at NZ journalists</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[ANALYSIS: By Gavin Ellis, publisher of Knightly Views Every journalist that &#8220;outs&#8221; a conspiracy theorist or extremist paints a target on their own back. The anti-truth brigade thrives in dark places and shining a light on it and its associates is doing a public service. Yet it comes at a cost. The tone of abuse ]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>ANALYSIS:</strong> <em>By Gavin Ellis, publisher of <a href="https://knightlyviews.com/">Knightly Views</a></em></p>
<p>Every journalist that &#8220;outs&#8221; a conspiracy theorist or extremist paints a target on their own back.</p>
<p>The anti-truth brigade thrives in dark places and shining a light on it and its associates is doing a public service. Yet it comes at a cost.</p>
<p>The tone of abuse that it generates is even darker than the places from which it emanates. New Zealand journalists &#8212; particularly female journalists &#8212; are being subjected to taunts and threats on an unprecedented scale and in forms that are deeply disturbing.</p>
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<li><a href="https://asiapacificreport.nz/2022/08/21/a-nz-media-conundrum-over-how-to-cover-the-dangerous-conspiracists/"><strong>READ MORE:</strong> A NZ media conundrum over how to cover the ‘dangerous’ conspiracists</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asiapacificreport.nz/?s=Conspiracy+theories">Other conspiracy theorist reports</a></li>
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<p>Paula Penfold of the Stuff Circuit team that produced the documentary <a href="https://youtu.be/lNuDvmrv8lY"><em>Fire and Fury</em></a>, which unmasked many of those behind the February-March protest in Parliament grounds, revealed in the <em>Sunday Star Times</em> last weekend that since its appearance she has been targeted with death threats, abuse “and, unsurprisingly, conspiracy theories”.</p>
<p>She told the newspaper: “I’ve had lots before but never as many or as ugly or as threatening than after this documentary.”</p>
<p>Penfold’s situation was outlined in an article about the abuse three female Stuff journalists had endured for doing their jobs. Alongside Penfold were Kirsty Johnston, who revealed MP Sam Uffindell’s record at King’s College, and Andrea Vance, currently revealing the anti- brigade’s associations with local body candidates.</p>
<p>“You can’t fight crazy,” Vance told the <em>SST</em>. “It’s exhausting. Half their tactics are to tie you up in pointless circular arguments but if people honestly think we’re being paid by the government they’re not well.”</p>
<p><strong>Attitude about media</strong><br />
Her latter point was a reference to an all-too-popular suggestion that the media en masse had been suborned by the Public Interest Journalism Fund. Anyone who thinks New Zealand’s media can be instantly brought to heel by $55 million spread among all of them over a period of four years is, indeed, not well.</p>
<p>Then again, the attitude toward journalists is “not well” either.</p>
<p>I felt immensely saddened to see this quote from Kirsty Johnston about the spread of trolling and abuse: “All reporters know it. They go to parties and don’t say what they do.”</p>
<p>When I was young, the only people who had that attitude were undertakers and the people who worked in the local VD clinic. We were proud to say we were journalists, reporters, photographers, sub-editors and so on.</p>
<p>Our broadcasting colleagues were equally open about their profession.</p>
<p>What went wrong, and when?</p>
<p><iframe title="YouTube video player" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/lNuDvmrv8lY" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe><br />
<em><a href="https://youtu.be/lNuDvmrv8lY">Fire and Fury</a> &#8211; the documentary.                      Video: Stuff Circuit</em></p>
<p>It has been a long time since the public put journalists on a pedestal. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the last statue to a journalist in Auckland was erected in 1901 (remembering <a href="https://thedreamstress.com/2014/03/inexplicable-public-sculptures-auckland-style/">George M Reed</a> and still standing in Albert Park).</p>
<p><strong>Slow decline</strong><br />
There was a slow decline over the years but in the 40 years I spent in daily journalism I never felt despised. Yes, I received two death threats in that time but the first was written in crayon and the second wasn’t aimed only at me, or even only at journalists (which was why it was reported to the police). What journalists are now experiencing is either something new or something old harnessed to something new.</p>
<figure id="attachment_78644" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78644" style="width: 228px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-78644" src="https://asiapacificreport.nz/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/George-M-Reed-statue-TD-300tall-228x300.png" alt="The Albert Part statue in memory of journalist George M Reed" width="228" height="300" srcset="https://asiapacificreport.nz/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/George-M-Reed-statue-TD-300tall-228x300.png 228w, https://asiapacificreport.nz/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/George-M-Reed-statue-TD-300tall.png 300w" sizes="(max-width: 228px) 100vw, 228px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78644" class="wp-caption-text">The Albert Part statue in memory of journalist George M Reed &#8230; a part-owner of the Auckland Star prior to the late 1870s, and then part-owner of the Otago Daily Times. Image: The Dreamstress</figcaption></figure>
<p>I think it may well be the latter. The old component is anarchy and the new is digital communication. Together they are dynamite (excuse the pun).</p>
<p>Anarchy is basically the repudiation of existing systems of government and ordered society, represented by institutions such as Parliament and the media (the latter is seen as the mouthpiece of politicians). In the past it had a capital A and was an intellectual breeding grounds for socialism, communism, and other then-radical politics.</p>
<p>However, even then, it had its hangers-on who were drawn to its sometimes-violent rhetoric with little understanding or interest in its philosophy. The crazy bombers and assassins were seldom actually card-carrying members of an anarchist body.</p>
<p>Today, anarchy has a small a. We use the term to denote disorder and disarray. And it underlies much of the anti-this and anti-that ranting that permeates social media.</p>
<p>Put simply, there are people out there who want to see the institutions of civil society brought down. They have no clear idea what should replace it and they don’t care. In a way, they are calling for destruction for its own sake. That is at the core of conspiracy theories.</p>
<p>Social media has become the new explosive. Much easier to come by than volatile nitro-glycerine or the &#8220;safer&#8221; dynamite, it can carry a destructive force over a far greater distance.</p>
<p><strong>Digital bomb-throwers</strong><br />
The digital bomb-throwers use it in two ways. The first is by undermining truth, which casts doubt over the legitimacy of institutions. The second is by discrediting those who represent those institutions. They reserve special attention, however, for those who would presume to unmask, undermine and discredit them.</p>
<p>So, it came as no surprise that the verbal attacks on journalists rose to a new pitch after the appearance of <em>Fire and Fury</em> on the Stuff website and the series of revelations about local body candidates’ undisclosed affiliations with groups that spread conspiracy theories.</p>
<p>The crescendo of hate requires fortitude on the part of the journalists exposing conspiracy theorists and other bad agents. They can take some comfort from the fact that media organisations take seriously their duty of care toward staff &#8212; and freelancers &#8212; facing threats.</p>
<p>RNZ chief executive Paul Thompson told me the abuse was taking its toll.</p>
<p>“We have responded with improved security and health and safety planning, at our offices and in the field. We also have set up improved process for dealing with inappropriate and abusive feedback and social media. There are things we can do to mitigate the effects of the abuse but we cannot reduce the impact or risk to zero.”</p>
<p>Television New Zealand’s head of news, Phil O’Sullivan, is similarly conscious of the risks and effects.</p>
<p>“TVNZ has not made any changes to security arrangements due to recent incidents. But we have many existing safety precautions for reporters in place. Depending on the story, this can include traveling with extra security when covering certain events, reporting from safe locations and from a distance if a situation feels volatile and using technology solutions – for example drone footage, or footage recorded on mobile phones rather than a camera set up where needed.</p>
<p>“We have a responsibility to report on all the stories impacting New Zealanders &#8212; but ultimately, we need to do that in a safe way. At the forefront of this is the wellbeing and safety of our people and we have a number of measures in place to support this.”</p>
<p><strong>Probing anti-fact organisations</strong><br />
He makes an important point: Media organisations must not let these diatribes and threats stay their hands. Investigation into anti-fact and extremist organisations and individuals must continue and are no more important than during election periods, be they local or national.</p>
<p>There is, however, a caveat. Journalists who call out conspiracy theorists and latter-day anarchists also have a duty of care. They have a duty to ensure they have the facts and that what they say is fair.</p>
<p>Last Saturday, the <em>Wairarapa Times-Age</em> investigated “local government candidates with controversial links” under the heading &#8220;Who is pulling the strings?&#8221; It &#8220;outed&#8221; a mayoral candidate, Tina Nixon, saying she “had been promoted by conspiracy website Resistance.Kiwi” and on Facebook had followed people associated with far-right groups.</p>
<p>Its source was FACT Aotearoa, a group that exposes conspiracy theorists.</p>
<p>However, the newspaper did not make direct contact with Nixon (it left an email saying she had two hours to respond but she did not see it within the required timeframe). Her only link with Resistance.Kiwi had been in giving them permission &#8212; along with several other websites &#8212; to reprint her submission on the 3 Waters proposals.</p>
<p>Like many of us, she follows hundreds of websites and social media users but does not support what many of them say. FACT Aotearoa offered Nixon an apology, saying there appeared to be a &#8220;miscommunication&#8221; with the <em>Wairarapa Times-Age.</em> In my view, the newspaper failed her and electors by not substantiating information.</p>
<p>There is potential here for witch-hunting or, as my former colleague Fran O’Sullivan put it on social media when calling out the mistake, McCarthyism.</p>
<p>In addition to fact-checking, media should give their targets an opportunity to explain their position before a decision is made to publish or broadcast. Tina Nixon is an object lesson.</p>
<p>There is a further reason why media must take great care in &#8220;outing&#8221; conspiracy theorists and extremists. Get one wrong and it might be seen as an unfortunate error. Get more wrong and the conspiracy theorists and extremists will say gleefully (and, irritatingly, with a very small amount of justification) that the media can’t be believed.</p>
<p><em><a href="https://knightlyviews.com/about-ua-158210565-2/">Dr Gavin Ellis</a> holds a PhD in political studies. He is a media consultant and researcher. A former editor-in-chief of The New Zealand Herald, he has a background in journalism and communications — covering both editorial and management roles — that spans more than half a century. Dr Ellis publishes a website called <a href="https://knightlyviews.com/">Knightly Views</a> where this commentary was first published and it is republished by Asia Pacific Report with permission.</em></p>
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		<title>Martyn Bradbury: Why these feral anti-vax conspiracy theorists seeking public office are so problematic</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[COMMENTARY: By Martyn Bradbury, editor of The Daily Blog If there was one good outcome of the very one sided Fire &#38; Fury, it’s that they have highlighted that these feral Qanon anti-vax lunatics have been outed for trying to hide their shared mental illness when running for everything from local council to school boards. ]]></description>
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<p><strong>COMMENTARY:</strong> <em>By Martyn Bradbury, editor of <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/">The Daily Blog</a></em></p>
<p>If there was one good outcome of the <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/08/14/mediawatch-stuff-circuit-documentary-on-dumb-lives-matter-protest-is-wellington-middle-class-virtue-signalling/">very one sided <em>Fire &amp; Fury</em></a>, it’s that they have highlighted that these feral Qanon anti-vax lunatics have been outed for trying to hide their shared mental illness when running for everything from local council to school boards.</p>
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<li><a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/129694796/minister-seeks-urgent-advice-as-white-supremacist-stands-for-school-board">Minister seeks urgent advice as white supremacist stands for school board</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/bay-of-plenty/300671598/mayoral-hopeful-spread-false-medical-claims-lied-about-emmy-award">Mayoral hopeful spread false medical claims, lied about Emmy Award</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129640108/nelson-council-candidates-links-to-disinformation-and-conspiracy">Nelson council candidates’ links to disinformation and conspiracy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/local-government/300668317/health-nz-rejects-vaccine-claims-by-former-pharmacist-standing-for-council">Health NZ rejects vaccine claims by former pharmacist standing for council</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129678841/council-candidate-has-onethird-stake-in-conspiracy-theorists-new-media-company">Council candidate has one-third stake in conspiracy theorist’s new media company</a></li>
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<p>Let’s be very clear what the issue here actually is and why the media are doing their job by telling us.</p>
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<li><a href="https://asiapacificreport.nz/?s=NZ+conspiracy+theories"><strong>READ MORE:</strong> Other conspiracy theory reports</a></li>
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<p>These feral anti-vax lunatics have every right to run in our democracy, just as they have every right to protest.</p>
<p>That they are running for local body elections isn’t the problem because every citizen has the right to democratic participation, just as they have the right to protest.</p>
<p>That they are standing isn’t the issue, the fact they are trying to hide their true intentions and their real beliefs <em>IS</em> the problem and it’s a big problem!</p>
<p>If you honestly believe that this government has committed crimes against humanity and needs to be arrested and hung at some weird bastardisation of the Nuremberg rallies, you should stand on that platform and tell us all your policy platform regarding that &#8212; and the rest of us can make a decision on how disconnected from reality you are.</p>
<p>Hiding your true intentions to insert yourself into the local structures of power so you can damage that system is not good faith democracy, it’s a dark and dangerous manipulation of our collective apathy.</p>
<p><strong>Toxic polarisation</strong><br />
Outing these fanatics isn’t a rightwing or leftwing thing, this is toxic polarisation by people who have a completely different reality to the rest of us and see engagement as a means to disrupt and amputate our democracy for the most conspiracy driven of beliefs.</p>
<p>As a nation we have sacrificed for our democracy, as a people we collectively suffered under covid. Our forebears did not spill blood and we did not in solidarity accept covid sacrifice just so people who are one step above flat-earthers could take over our local systems of democracy.</p>
<p>They need to be outed and all good people of conscience should vote in any way that ensures they don’t win.</p>
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<em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNuDvmrv8lY">Fire and Fury</a> by Paula Penfold.                        Video: The Stuff Circuit</em></p>
<p>Let me be clear.</p>
<p>I don’t care that these lunatics are running, I do care that they are being deceptive about their true intentions and intend to wreck our democracy from the inside for their demented conspiracies.</p>
<p>Voters need to know who they are and need to know their deceptiveness and voters can make up their own mind, because purposely misleading the public about your true intentions isn’t democracy &#8212; that’s a coup d’état.</p>
<p><em>Martyn Bradbury is the editor and publisher of The Daily Blog. This commentary was first published by <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2020/08/06/waatea-news-column-tvnz-decision-against-maori-party-detrimental-to-politics/">The Daily Blog</a> and is republished here with permission.<br />
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					<description><![CDATA[By Hayden Donnell, RNZ Mediawatch producer A documentary from Stuff Circuit this week delved into Aotearoa New Zealand&#8217;s growing extreme far-right and anti-vax movement. Why did the makers of Fire and Fury decide to platform a group of conspiracy-minded idealogues, and what did it get right that others got wrong? In February, Newsroom&#8217;s Melanie Reid travelled ]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>By <a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/authors/hayden-donnell">Hayden Donnell</a>, <a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018854128/a-conundrum-over-how-to-cover-the-conspiracists">RNZ Mediawatch</a> producer</em></p>
<p>A documentary from <em>Stuff Circuit</em> this week delved into Aotearoa New Zealand&#8217;s growing extreme far-right and anti-vax movement.</p>
<p>Why did the makers of <a href="https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2022/08/circuit/fire-and-fury-disinformation-in-new-zealand/"><em>Fire and Fury</em></a> decide to platform a group of conspiracy-minded idealogues, and what did it get right that others got wrong?</p>
<p>In February, <em>Newsroom&#8217;s</em> Melanie Reid <a href="https://www.newsroom.co.nz/melanie-reid-a-visit-to-freedom-village">travelled to what was then called &#8220;freedom village&#8221;</a> to interview some of the people behind the occupation taking place on Parliament grounds, Voices for Freedom leaders Alia Bland, Claire Deeks, and Libby Jonson.</p>
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<li><a href="https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2022/08/circuit/fire-and-fury-disinformation-in-new-zealand/"><strong>WATCH</strong> <em>Fire and Fury</em></a></li>
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<p>&#8220;You guys started it yeah? The three of you?&#8221; Reid asked. &#8220;Three mums.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Three mums,&#8221; they agreed in unison.</p>
<p>The video feature was part of a wave of press that Voices For Freedom and its allies attracted in recent months.</p>
<p><strong>Altruistic posture<br />
</strong>Nurses For Freedom, a group founded by Voices For Freedom local coordinator Deborah Cunliffe, featured recently on Three&#8217;s <em>The Project</em>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Healthcare clearly matters to New Zealand. Our nurses want to help,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p>Cunliffe&#8217;s altruistic posture in the interview jarred a little with <a href="https://twitter.com/factaotearoa/status/1546732974041104387">calls in the Nurses For Freedom Telegram group for Nuremberg 2.0</a> to be carried out on public figures who backed vaccination and covid-19 health measures.</p>
<p>At the end of that interview, presenter and former Black Cap Mark Richardson pointed out that the healthcare workers in question could get their jobs back with one simple step.</p>
<p>&#8220;Get the jab and go back,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I don&#8217;t care what your rationale is.</p>
<p>&#8220;Your country needs you. It&#8217;s like me fielding under the helmet. I didn&#8217;t want to do it but I did it for the good of the country.&#8221;</p>
<p>Other coverage was more sympathetic to the anti-vax cause.</p>
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<p><strong>An uncritical eye</strong><br />
A story by Evan Harding in Stuff’s <em>Southland Times</em> cast an uncritical eye over Nurses For Freedom&#8217;s claim to represent 700 nurses just waiting to return to work.</p>
<p>But according to figures from the Ministry of Health, only about 500 nurses have been suspended for failing to meet covid-19 vaccine requirements.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/129197272/this-story-has-been-removed">Stuff’s article has since been removed</a>, replaced by a message saying it failed to meet the company’s editorial standards, and another article by Harding on vaccinations has received the same treatment.</p>
<p>Stuff wasn’t the only news organisation to pull a story after giving an uncritical platform to an anti-vaxxer.</p>
<p>Last month, <em>The New Zealand Herald</em> carried an article by the<em> Northern Advocate</em> about Brad Flutey, who was protesting against the closure of the Marsden Point refinery.</p>
<p>The story didn’t mention that Flutey is an anti-vaxxer who <a href="https://twitter.com/Te_Taipo/status/1549879783298723840?t=fZ5oDBt2ihtatOZB4A5JMA&amp;s=19">called for the Parliament protesters to shift their focus to Marsden Point as a way of retaining momentum after their occupation was broken up,</a> nor that he had repeatedly called to overthrow the government, and had faced charges for refusing <a href="https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/anti-vaxxer-brad-flutey-appears-in-whangarei-district-court-on-charges-arising-from-january-arrest/NXKA2MVK2MN2FQV3YGV4NRN5BQ/">to comply with covid restrictions and wear a mask while shopping</a>.</p>
<p>After receiving criticism, <em>The Herald</em> took the article down and later replaced it with a rewritten version headlined &#8220;<a href="https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/marsden-point-oil-refinery-protest-passes-100-day-milestone-in-northland-take-two/CWVUPUDXM6UE2EYHME4X65ZUQE/">Marsden Point Oil Refinery protest passes 100-day milestone in Northland &#8211; take two&#8221;</a>.</p>
<p><strong>The Platform platforming</strong><br />
While some organisations seem to have elevated these figures either by accident, or in contravention of their own editorial standards, broadcaster Sean Plunket&#8217;s platform <em>The Platform</em> has platformed a succession of anti-vaxxers and extremists on purpose.</p>
<p>This week, presenter Michael Laws talked to <em>Counterspin Media</em> host Kelvyn Alp, who once told Act leader David Seymour he was lucky protesters at the Parliament occupation hadn’t <a href="https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/02/17/violent-messages-among-misinformation-at-parliament-protest/">strung him up from the nearest lamppost</a>.</p>
<p>An extrajudicial execution would seem like the most extreme possible form of deplatforming, but an association with intolerance does not appear to be a deal-breaker for <em>The Platform</em>, which has the tagline &#8220;Open. Tolerant. Free&#8221;.</p>
<p>The station had also aired long interviews with leaders of groups like Voices For Freedom and NZ Doctors Speak Out With Science in recent months, some of them not exactly neutral.</p>
<p><em>The Platform</em> host Rodney Hide put his cards on the table before an interview with Alia Bland, revealing himself to be a member of her group:</p>
<blockquote><p>“I am a very very very proud member of Voices For Freedom. This is my disclosure. I&#8217;m not having someone along that I&#8217;m neutral about. I am a fan of Voices For Freedom.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>After his interview with the well-known Facebook anti-vaxxer Chantelle Baker, Plunket was so <a href="https://twitter.com/kelvin_morganNZ/status/1559428362937909248?t=U-eZh8gdA57nWZ3IPGDLSw&amp;s=19">moved that he even offered her a </a>show.</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you want a weekly show on <em>The Platform</em>?&#8221; he asked. &#8220;I would be happy to have you on board on the strength of the open conversation we&#8217;ve had today.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Personal platform clipped<br />
</strong>But today <em>The Herald</em> reported Baker&#8217;s personal platform had been somewhat clipped, with her own Facebook page <a href="https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-anti-vaxx-campaigner-chantelle-bakers-facebook-page-deactivated/6X4XWDI5MU6YESVNI7ZNGGQXZQ/">newly deactivated</a>. Though the report said she was operating another page, just not under her own name.</p>
<p>The reason Plunket was making that offer, and interviewing Baker in the first place, was because she had just been featured in a documentary which painted her and other leading anti-vax figures in a less than flattering light.</p>
<p><a href="https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2022/08/circuit/fire-and-fury-disinformation-in-new-zealand/"><em>Fire and Fury</em> by Stuff Circuit</a> came out last Sunday, and features clips taken from conspiracy and anti-vax groups on platforms like Telegram, which show the violent elements of the movement.</p>
<p>&#8220;You gotta love that sound of execution. It&#8217;s gonna happen,&#8221; one clip begins.</p>
<p>&#8220;The media in this country need burning. They really seriously need burning,&#8221; another voice continues.</p>
<p>The doco also showed a darker side to Voices For Freedom.</p>
<p>Far from just being &#8212; in the words of that <em>Newsroom</em> video &#8212; the project of “three mums”, <em>Fire and Fury</em> portrays a group which puts up an approachable, folksy front to draw people into a more radical, potentially violent agenda.</p>
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<figure style="width: 576px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://rnz-ressh.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--42X478Jg--/ar_16:10,c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,q_auto,w_576/4LMV0O7_FireFuryPaulaPenfold_PNG" alt="Paula Penfold in Fire &amp; Fury" width="576" height="270" /><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">Paula Penfold in Fire and Fury &#8230; &#8220;The (conspiracists) have had their say. They have so many hundreds, thousands of hours of material on the internet already, and also the guidelines we were reading said it was dangerous to give them a platform that&#8217;s equal to the hate they&#8217;re already disseminating.&#8221; Image: Stuff</figcaption></figure>
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<p><strong>&#8216;Fascistic&#8217; ideas lurking<br />
</strong>In an interview with host Paula Penfold, The Disinformation Project director Kate Hannah points out potential fascistic ideas lurking beneath some of the group&#8217;s messages on vaccines and health.</p>
<p>&#8220;The role of women and wellness in fascist and proto-fascist movements has always been really significant. Even in Italy and Germany in the 1920s, a lot of proto-fascist ideas came from or were augmented by ideas around health, well-being, rejection of modern medicine, because obviously if you are an uber-race, you don&#8217;t need modern medicine,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p>&#8220;All of the different groups that we see in New Zealand at the moment have features of fascistic ideas around power and control.&#8221;</p>
<p>The documentary also homes in on chat transcripts from former National Front leader Kyle Chapman identifying the &#8220;dark-haired&#8221; lady from Voices For Freedom as a potential political leader.</p>
<p>Penfold told <em>Mediawatch</em> the <em>Stuff Circuit</em> team decided to do the documentary after watching the Wellington protests and seeing talk on associated social media channels about making the country &#8220;ungovernable&#8221;.</p>
<p>They wrestled with how to <a href="https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2022/08/circuit/democracy-on-edge/">to shine a light on what goes on in the shadier corners of the internet</a> without giving further oxygen to dangerous figures.</p>
<p>&#8220;There were many many, many editorial conversations about how we should do that,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p><strong>Guided by researchers</strong><br />
Those conversations were guided by groups who had studied the New Zealand far right.</p>
<p>They helped convince the team not to interview some of the people at the centre of their documentary, including Kelvyn Alp, former AUT law lecturer and conspiracist Amy Benjamin, and fellow conspiracy theorist Damien De Ment.</p>
<p>Penfold also cited a 2017 report called <a href="http://The%20Oxygen%20of%20Amplification">The Oxygen of Amplification</a> by US-based independent nonprofit organisation <a href="https://datasociety.net/about/">Data &amp; Society</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;We drew most of our guidelines from that on what we should and shouldn&#8217;t do,&#8221; she told <em>Mediawatch. </em></p>
<p>That approach was criticised by some journalists, including Plunket, but Penfold said it was necessary.</p>
<p>&#8220;They&#8217;ve had their say. They have so many hundreds, thousands of hours of material on the internet already, and also the guidelines we were reading said it was dangerous to give them a platform that&#8217;s equal to the hate they&#8217;re already disseminating. And so this is not your ordinary right of reply situation. In a way it&#8217;s like we were giving our audience the right of reply to what&#8217;s already been said.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Different approach</strong><em><br />
Stuff Circuit</em> took a different approach in an earlier documentary on the conspiracy theorist Billy Te Kahika, where Penfold sat down with him for a long-form interview.</p>
<p>Penfold said the team was also careful then not to platform &#8220;dangerous&#8221; content.</p>
<p>&#8220;We didn&#8217;t let him platform any of his conspiracy theory views. That was an important distinction. We were challenging him on things he had said and things he had done and misrepresented in his career,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p>&#8220;In this instance we just didn&#8217;t want to give them an opportunity to revoice the conspiracies they already had voiced. Sitting them down and giving them that right of reply risked re-platforming their dangerous speech and we just didn&#8217;t want to do that.&#8221;</p>
<p>The question of whether to cover the extreme right, and how to do it, has been a vexed one in the media as conspiracy movements have grown noisier and more influential.</p>
<p>In a <a href="https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/matthew-hooton-danger-on-the-left-monstrosity-emerging-on-the-right-of-nz-politics/PDBD7ZE3JA3T2JOVSBJLYPASTM/">recent column for <em>The Herald</em></a>, Matthew Hooton warned of a “monstrosity” emerging on the right, and concluded with this conundrum for the media:</p>
<p>&#8220;Is it best to ignore these extremist movements for fear of giving them a platform? Or is it more important than ever to bring to public attention the true nature of their agenda?&#8221; he wrote.</p>
<p><strong><em>Pacific Journalism Review</em> paper</strong><br />
Disinformation researcher Byron C Clark has looked at that issue in <a href="https://doi.org/10.24135/pjr.v28i1and2.1248">a paper on the media’s coverage of the Parliament occupation for the <em>Pacific Journalism Review</em></a>.</p>
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<p>Clark said <em>Fire and Fury</em> succeeded where some other attempts to cover the anti-vax extreme right had fallen down.</p>
<p>Though some far-right figures were hoping the publicity they received from the documentary would help grow their movement&#8217;s numbers, the documentary&#8217;s framing and editorial decision-making should make that unlikely, he said.</p>
<p>&#8220;They&#8217;re hoping they can use this to bring more people into the fold with their beliefs, but I think that&#8217;s going to be difficult to do because it&#8217;s put some of the more violent aspects of their beliefs out there and that&#8217;s probably for a lot of people going to be the first thing they know about something like <em>Counterspin</em> &#8212; that they&#8217;re calling for the violent overthrow of the government.&#8221;</p>
<p>Clark said the documentary&#8217;s approach could help dissuade some vulnerable people from joining conspiracy movements by inoculating them against some of the more pervasive forms of false information being peddled.</p>
<p>He backed <em>Stuff Circuit&#8217;s</em> decision not to interview the conspiracist figures they were covering.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think rather than giving them more oxygen by covering them in news articles or a documentary like this, it&#8217;s providing some of that balance that&#8217;s lacking in their own channels.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s really more restoring balance to some of these ideas rather than giving these ideas oxygen.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>This article is republished under a community partnership agreement with RNZ.</em></p>
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