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		<title>New Caledonia’s political talks &#8211; no outcome after three days of &#8216;conclave&#8217;</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[By Patrick Decloitre, RNZ Pacific correspondent French Pacific Desk After three solid days of talks in retreat mode, New Caledonia&#8217;s political parties have yet to reach an agreement on the French Pacific territory&#8217;s future status. The talks, held with French Minister for Overseas Manuel Valls and French Prime Minister&#8217;s special advisor Eric Thiers, have since ]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>By <a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/authors/patrick-decloitre">Patrick Decloitre</a>, <a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/">RNZ Pacific</a> correspondent French Pacific Desk</em></p>
<p>After three solid days of talks in retreat mode, New Caledonia&#8217;s political parties have yet to reach an agreement on the French Pacific territory&#8217;s future status.</p>
<p>The talks, held with French Minister for Overseas Manuel Valls and French Prime Minister&#8217;s special advisor Eric Thiers, have since Monday moved from Nouméa to a seaside resort in Bourail &#8212; on the west coast of the main island, about 200 km from the capital &#8212; in what has been labelled a &#8220;conclave&#8221;, a direct reference to this week&#8217;s meeting of Catholic cardinals in Rome to elect a new pope.</p>
<p>However, the Bourail conclave is yet to produce any kind of white smoke, and no one, as yet, claims &#8220;Habemus Pactum&#8221; to say that an agreement has been reached.</p>
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<p>Under heavy security, representatives of both pro-France and pro-independence parties are being kept in isolation and are supposed to stay there until a compromise is found to define New Caledonia&#8217;s political future, and an agreement that would later serve as the basis for a pact designed to replace the Nouméa Accord that was signed in 1998.</p>
<p>The talks were supposed to conclude yesterday, but it has been confirmed that the discussions were going to last longer, at least one more day, probably well into the night.</p>
<p>Valls was initially scheduled to fly back to Paris today, but it has also been confirmed that he will stay longer.</p>
<p>Almost one year after civil unrest broke out in New Caledonia on 13 May 2024, leaving 14 dead and causing 2.2 billion euros (NZ$4.2 billion) in damage, the talks involve pro-France Les Loyalistes, Le Rassemblement, Calédonie Ensemble and pro-independence FLNKS (Kanak and Socialist National Liberation Front), UNI-PALIKA (Kanak Liberation Party).</p>
<p><strong>Wallisian &#8216;third way&#8217;</strong><br />
Éveil Océanien, a Wallisian-based party, defends a &#8220;neither pro, nor against independence&#8221; line &#8212; what it calls a &#8220;third way&#8221;.</p>
<p>The talks, over the past few days, have been described as &#8220;tense but respectful&#8221;, with some interruptions at times.</p>
<p>The most sensitive issues among the numerous topics covered by the talks on New Caledonia&#8217;s future, are reported to be the question of New Caledonia&#8217;s future status and relationship to France.</p>
<p>Other sensitive topics include New Caledonia&#8217;s future citizenship and the transfer of remaining key powers (defence, law and order, currency, foreign affairs, justice) from Paris to Nouméa.</p>
<p>Valls, who is visiting New Caledonia for the third time since February 2025, said he would stay in New Caledonia &#8220;as long as necessary&#8221; for an inclusive and comprehensive agreement to be reached.</p>
<p>Earlier this week, Valls also likened the current situation as &#8220;walking on a tightrope above embers.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The choice is between an agreement and chaos,&#8221; he told local media.</p>
<p><strong>Clashing demands</strong><br />
On both sides of the discussion table, local parties have all stated earlier that bearing in mind their respective demands, they were &#8220;not ready to sign at all costs.&#8221;</p>
<p>The FLNKS is demanding full sovereignty while on the pro-France side, that view is rejected after three referendums were held there between 2018 and 2021 said no to independence.</p>
<p>Valls&#8217;s approach was still trying to reconcile those two very antagonistic views, often described as &#8220;irreconcilable&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;But the thread is not broken. Only more time is required&#8221;, local media quoted a close source as saying.</p>
<p>Last week, an earlier session of talks in Nouméa had to be interrupted due to severe frictions and disagreement from the pro-France side.</p>
<p>Speaking to public broadcaster NC la 1ère on Sunday, Rassemblement leader Virginie Ruffenach elaborated, saying &#8220;there had been profound elements of disagreements on a certain number of words uttered by the minister (Valls)&#8221;.</p>
<p>One of the controversial concepts, strongly opposed by the most radical pro-French parties, was a possible transfer of key powers from Paris to Nouméa, as part of a possible agreement.</p>
<p><strong>Loyalists opposed to &#8216;independence-association&#8217;<br />
</strong>&#8220;In what was advanced, the land of New Caledonia would no longer be a French land&#8221;, Ruffenach stressed on Sunday, adding this was &#8220;unacceptable&#8221; to her camp.</p>
<p>She also said the two main pro-France parties were opposed to any notion of &#8220;independence-association&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Neither Rassemblement, nor Les Loyalistes will sign for New Caledonia&#8217;s independence, let this be very clear.&#8221;</p>
<p>The pro-France camp is advocating for increased powers (including on tax matters) for each of the three provinces of New Caledonia, a solution sometimes regarded by critics as a form of partition of the French Pacific territory.</p>
<p>In a media release on Sunday, FLNKS &#8220;reaffirmed its . . . ultimate goal was Kanaky (New Caledonia&#8217;s) accession to full sovereignty&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>Series of fateful anniversaries<br />
</strong>On the general public level, a feeling of high expectations, but also wariness, seems to prevail at the news that discussions were still inconclusive.</p>
<p>In 1988, the Matignon-Oudinot peace talks between pro-independence leader at the time, Jean-Marie Tjibaou and pro-France leader Jacques Lafleur, were also held, in their final stage, in Paris, behind closed doors, under the close supervision of French Socialist Prime Minister Michel Rocard.</p>
<p>The present crucial talks also coincide with a series of fateful anniversaries in New Caledonia&#8217;s recent history &#8212; on 5 May 1988, French special forces ended a hostage situation and intervened on Ouvéa Island in the Gossana grotto, where a group of hard-line pro-independent militants had held a group of French gendarmes.</p>
<p>The human toll was heavy: 19 Kanak militants and 2 gendarmes were killed.</p>
<p>On 4 May 1989, one year after the Matignon-Oudinot peace accords were signed, Jean-Marie Tjibaou and his deputy Yeiwene Yeiwene were gunned down by hard-line pro-independence Kanak activist Djubelly Wea.</p>
<p>Valls attended most of these commemoration ceremonies at the weekend.</p>
<p>On 5 May 1998, the 27-year-old Nouméa Accord was signed between New Caledonia&#8217;s parties and then French Prime Minister Lionel Jospin.</p>
<p><strong>De facto Constitution</strong><br />
The Nouméa pact, which is often regarded as a de facto Constitution, was placing a particular stress on the notions of &#8220;re-balancing&#8221; economic wealth, a &#8220;common destiny&#8221; for all ethnic communities &#8220;living together&#8221; and a gradual transfer of powers from Paris to Nouméa.</p>
<p>The Accord also prescribed that if three self-determination referendums (initially scheduled between 2014 and 2018) had produced three rejections (in the form of &#8220;no&#8221;), then all political stakeholders were supposed to &#8220;meet and examine the situation thus generated&#8221;.</p>
<p>The current talks aimed at arriving at a new document, which was destined to replace the Nouméa Accord and bring New Caledonia closer to having its own Constitution.</p>
<p>Valls said he was determined to &#8220;finalise New Caledonia&#8217;s decolonisation&#8221; process.</p>
<p><em>This article is republished under a community partnership agreement with RNZ</em>.</p>
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